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gothamknight
01-18-2008, 10:21 PM
Anyone see this tonite? I just got in a little while ago and I really enjoyed this movie.

I don't want to spoil anything plus I'm super tired so I'll leave it at that for now. See this movie on the big screen.

kamikazesquid
01-18-2008, 11:11 PM
Anyone see this tonite? I just got in a little while ago and I really enjoyed this movie.

I don't want to spoil anything plus I'm super tired so I'll leave it at that for now. See this movie on the big screen.

or better yet, don't see this piece of crap at all. sit at home and play Halflife 2 and you'll see the same monsters.

1. there was no story

2. you dont know anything about the monster

3 this might be a SPOILER...



you dont even know what the hell ends up happening to the monster. it just ends




this movie was a HUGE letdown. sorry to be so harsh, but this movie SUCKED!

Nick August
01-19-2008, 01:18 PM
I saw it because the reviews were so good but it wasn't that good!..problems..it was too short,the 'shakey cam' really makes you tired..you never see the 'monster' that well until almost the middle of the movie,I didn't like the 'brain-dead' characters..they are 'spoiled 20ish brats' with too much drama!..you never see the monster actually kill anybody..this could have been very good but it's too vapid and empty.The good things about it are the cgi effects of the monster and the damage it causes.Now I know why Ray Harryhausen's 'IT Came From Beneath The Sea' was re-released this week in a new colorized dvd..it's supposed to be a tie-in with this film but I doubt most people would even notice.I still need to pick this restored dvd up.Why didn't the director just film 'Cloverfield' as a 'regular movie' with a few 'cinema verte' [hand held shots]?..it would have been better..people were walking out after about the first half hour of this film.Maybe an extended dvd will happen which in this case would make the film a little better.Also if a monster really attacked I doubt anyone get this close and film it unless they were as 'dumb' as the charcters in this film.

Altaira
01-19-2008, 10:08 PM
I'll wait for this to come on TV. I heard that the shaky camera work made some folks ill.

Brutus
01-20-2008, 08:20 AM
I'm going to see it at 3PM-sh with a couple friends, John and Dave, while our wives are having a pampered Chef party. We'll see, the buzz I've heard was that it was pretty good. But, I was watching Attack of the Show the other night and a guy said they should do a sequel with another bunch of people so we could see some more of the actual story?

Nick August
01-20-2008, 01:57 PM
Spoiler ALERT..another problem is we never learn what happens to people when they get attacked/bitten by the monster's babies which look like giant 'crabs' with more legs..one victim looks like she was either turning into a 'demon' or she just 'exploded' behind a curtain!.

Bron
01-20-2008, 06:46 PM
It looked like she popped.

gothamknight
01-20-2008, 07:35 PM
She did pop. The personell recognized she was bitten and quickly dragged her out of the way. Didn't you see them carting away a corpse whose chest looked like it was ripped open mere moments before she went boom?

I don't understand what you were expecting out of this movie? Did you not know the whole thing was shot with a hand camera and was just the story of these few individuals trying to survive under a severe situation?

I liked the movie up until the helicopter sequence. I thought it should've ended with the crash. Or if they had to survive the crash, just have the camera be left on the ground with them walking away from it before the air raid sirens go off or something.

There was plenty story and you do know what happens to the monster.

Brutus
01-20-2008, 10:20 PM
Spoiler - I liked it a lot, even the baby monsters. I really thought that they would find the girlfriend dead. When they got her up and made it to the helicopters, I was really surprised considering how messed up things were. I would like to know what popped inside the girl and that soldier too - was it digestive enzymes or something? That's my guess, but then how was she still walking around if that was going on? If this was some kind of Alien-like gestation, then it's totally stupid to think that one of these things would gestate in the course of what, a half hour or hour of real time? You knew that there was a very good chance they were all dead at the very beginning, because the tape was recovered and there was no indication given of any other data other than the tape itself - no debriefings or anything.... I think they could make an excellent sequel by following some of those soldiers, many of whom had shoulder cameras?

Oh - my hearing isn't very good, at the very end of the credits, there is a little burst of static and someone said something - was it, "What now?"

Considering the movies that are the obvious inspirations including Beast from 20,000 Fathoms, Godzilla, Alien, etc - it was very subversive in having the main characters be basically totally out of the loop, trying to survive somehow as forces beyond their control completely destroy the world they knew.

Nick August
01-21-2008, 12:46 AM
They are all dead at the beginning because someone found the tape that becomes the movie.It's kind of like 'The War Of The Worlds' remake with the action always from the 'main' character's point of view.I just thought it got old fast beause of this.And Jim I agree how could the victims get sick so fast and pop!?.There's another version of this same plot in video stores now called 'Monster' another obvious tie-in with this film and the re-release of 'IT Came From Beneath The Sea'.

blammo
01-21-2008, 12:29 PM
Ok, I love this place!
When it comes to discussing movies, shooting the bull about other topics and so on...you are the guys I come to for answers.

So, let me put it bluntly....with NO animosity what-so-ever.....

Have either of you guys, that are in, kind of, disbelief about what happened to a character, after they were bitten by an alien from another...planet....
have either of you guys been bitten by an alien lifeform?

I mean...it's a story where you're gonna die when you get bit. That's it.
Other planets have aliens that grow inside you, others have aliens that bite ya and you take a while to die...but, these creatures are from a place where if you get bit, you die right away. In science fiction, it's not so hard to believe. Why question it? I'm just having a hard time believing that this "plot point" is problem in the story for you guys.

I mean, would you get angry if it was the same kinda death-wait from another movie you saw? This movie does something different and you find a problem with it.

Again, this is out of total curiosity. I just don't understand how you can't say, "whoa, I'd hate to get bit by that thing"...insteada tryin to pull some kinda earth-type science out of it. #1, the creatures are from somewhere else, and, #2, it's science fiction.

That's all. Peace. Love. Understanding.

Bad Guy (Ariel)
01-21-2008, 12:32 PM
I liked it quite a bit.
I thought it was a unique way of doing a giant monster movie, which let's face it, is a genre that's pretty much been done to death. We don't know where the creature came from or what it's ultimate fate is because the characters filming the video don't know. It's entirely from their perspective and they're not scientists or military, just young people at a party, which was also refreshing. The creature, and its spawn, were very original looking and the effects were topnotch.
This was way better, and more realistic, than a lot of giant monster movies. Remember the American Godzilla from a few years ago? I'll take "Cloverfield' over that any day of the week.

blammo
01-21-2008, 12:39 PM
OK...let me make an retraction/apology/correction.

It was just Nick that had a prob with the alien "alien death-bite" process.
Nick, you're my go-to guy when I have science fiction/horror q's.
I take your answers to the store when buying a dvd you discuss on these boards. So....
I don't understand why you don't just shrug a "sci-fi "unknown origin life-form" plot" point off because it's sci-fi.

Brutus
01-21-2008, 01:43 PM
Spoiler

Blammo, I am just trying to figure out what happened - clearly they'd seen it before because they freaked and dragged the girl into a quarantined area - now, if it was some kind of acid/digestive enzyme or something, then I guess those docs failed and also got covered in whatever it was - maybe killed them? There was no evidence in the movie that it was an alien chest burster type thing, so this is my guess at what happened. It wasn't really a hang up for me, just something I was wondering about. Now, if you really want to get technical, then there is no way that monster on spindly legs could walk. Physics would demand very thick and sturdy legs pretty much straight down underneath such a beast for it to work - the spidery/crab thing would just snap into pieces at that size. Look at the legs on an elephant or one of the big dinosaurs - if they were thin, they would never hold up that mass.

Found an interview with the director and he indicated that there is a clue in the last little piece of the camcorder film that we saw - apparently in the distance you can see something fall into the water (from space?) during their trip to Coney Island a month earlier.

Nick August
01-21-2008, 01:48 PM
The creature didn't come from outer space 'It Came From Beneath The Sea'.[NY harbor] it's still sci-fi and better than 'Crapzilla' but I found it's hand held gimmick spread too thin.I agree the effects are good but..yawn.

Brutus
01-21-2008, 02:06 PM
SPOILER

One site I found for Slusho ties into the movie as this was the company that posted pictures sonar showing the monster coming towards Manhattan just before the movie came out and apparently they were drilling for some "Nectar" from the floor of the ocean to turn into a drink? So, this Japanese company woke up the beast?

Now - were the little buggers actually parasites on the big monster, or were they its young? This is a real fan-boy headgame, because they just don't fill in the information, do they?

If they do a sequel or another movie based on this event, then I hope they don't do the camcorder thing - it did wear thin after a while.

blammo
01-21-2008, 05:29 PM
one last thing.....next post

blammo
01-21-2008, 05:30 PM
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Brutus, I heard the same thing.
Somebody told me that if you watch the part where they are video-ing themselves at the beach (in happier times before the attack) at the end, the camera was facing the ocean, recording her. And in the background, you see something fall into the ocean. (Sounds like a creepy moment!) And, I guess, nobody notices (on the boardwalk).

Now, I find that coincidental. But, if they saw it and then dismissed it and went on with their day, I'd say that was REEEAALLY coincidental. But, no one (in the movie) saw it when it happened in the background where, I guess, some of those in the audience didn't notice it either.

But, it's still an alien. Physics or no Physics, that's the story. If you see somethin like that, you say, "Hmmm, must be alien physics!" (LOL!!) But,
it's their story, that's what landed on earth, and if it happened right in fronta
you, you can't argue with it. But, if I were interested in tearing the movie apart, I think I see your point about mass and weight and physics.

Needless to say, what ya don't see is scarier. If the girl explodes after being bit, that's that!! All you have to do is stay the frig away from anything that bit her.

Me? I haven't seen it yet. And talkin about a movie, no mattter what is uncovered, never spoils it for me. Just makes me wanna see it more.

I'll pro'lly wait for dvd.

Like I said..it's a story, and I just don't wanna see ya ruin it for yourselves if ya over-analyze it. Buuuut, that's just me. Glad ya had a good time anyway.

One last thing, if there is a roar at the end, when Operation Hammerdown is happening, ya never see the monster get killed, do ya? That could mean the monster just got more angry and nothin happened to it.....Hmmmmm......
Not that I'd want a sequel...really...

Brutus
01-21-2008, 06:36 PM
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blammo
01-21-2008, 07:15 PM
Check this out at moviepoilers.com...

Go to the bottom of the page, where it says cut to the chase and read the 4 points about the ending and what is heard after the credits.

http://www.themoviespoiler.com/Spoilers/cloverfield.html

...kinda cool....

Brutus
01-22-2008, 09:21 AM
Cool, thanks! Sometimes these guys are too clever by far and everything has to be a mystery or puzzle, LOL.

elpirao
01-27-2008, 11:44 AM
I thought it was great. I had not had such a good time seeing a movie for a while. I was on the edge of my seat the whole time (well, once the creature attacks, of course). Besides, I am extremely afraid of heights, so a couple of scenes really scared the hell out of me. I'm sure you know which they are.
The only problem is that you can only like it if you actually connect with the characters.

I loved how, for the most part, you see the creature shortly and fast. That is the way it would happen if the situation actually took place.
I never had a problem with the shaky camera that so many people are complaining about. I mean, was it really that bad?

SPOILERS

When I saw the parasites attacking the soldiers I freaked out. However the scene in the tunnel was a little unbelievable. How did they manage to escape from them without weapons? Maybe, since they were underwater creatures, they were getting weaker out of the water…
Anyway, at the end, seeing the old video that the couple recorded a month earlier was heartbreaking. Also, the moment when his mom calls on the phone and he has to tell her that the brother has died was also quite intense. It made me think about how many people probably did that on 9/11.
But, like I said, you’ll only like it if you actually liked the characters.

Davex
01-27-2008, 02:37 PM
I liked it quite a bit. The shake didn't bother me at all but I sat a bit further back than usual as well. I'd like to see a sequel that takes place roughly during the same amount of time but extends a bit beyond the ending we see. i think it would work if it was done as a more straight forward film. I think they could compliment each other well. THEN, make more sequels with more giant monsters and giant monster battles!